Video: India Pakistan Military Comparison – Part-II
September 03, 2009
You can always see the statistical data of Military Comparison of India & Pakistan, here.
Besides the conventional military balance, the statistical data and critical analysis between India and Pakistan, here is, yet another piece for your eyes for the comparison of forces of India and Pakistan. This video was shared by a friend of facebook.
The happening took place at Wahga Border, Lahore during the flag ceremony.
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india may be poorer than china.
so why don’t you compare yourself with china?
we want to emulate china type of model intermixed with flavors of democracy.
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tum indian sick minded ho bhai
Nehi bhai, Indians are ambitious minded bhai.
i am indian i love my country………? u stupid pakisthan waste fellows in the world……..? jai bharath matha ……?
I love my india………? total in the world the wastest country is pakisthan………..? terriost country…..? waste bad all these type of things will done in that country
I request you to attend a spoken English class, No offence meant.
i am pakistani .i love my country. during contests we will see u
indians…. india is a heaven for top terrors in the world
ho…. Comedy of 2010
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Pakistan’s defence budget for the year 2006-07 was $4.1 billion (~3% of GDP) in response to India’s hike in defence budget of 2006-07 at $20.11 billion (~ 2.5% of GDP). Pakistan’s hike in military budget would be partially funded by its government coffers and partially by borrowing whereas India’s military spending would be entirely off its own funds. India’s ambitious budget prompted Pakistan to up its own military budget, despite the country’s widespread poverty and socio-political problems. Apart from its GDP, Pakistani military also gets a considerable funding from United States. Considering that India has a far larger economy overall, its military budget is also several times larger, despite being a smaller share of India’s GDP.
Manpower and Ground Forces
As of 2005, India has the second largest military manpower in the world – at 3,773,300 personell, next only to China. Pakistan’s manpower of 1,449,000 personell, although smaller in numbers, is proportionally higher than India in terms of their population ratios. Pakistan’s ground forces are equipped with American or Chinese weapons like FIM 92 Stinger SAMs, BGM-71 TOW anti-tank missiles, T-82 tanks and other equipments. Indian ground forces are equipped with mostly home-made and Soviet technologies like IR guided 9K35 Strela-10 SAMs, 3rd Gen IR guided Nag anti-tank missiles, UAVs and a large inventory of tanks and support vehicles. In terms of both numbers and equipments, Indian military dominates the Pakistani ground forces.
Comparison of Air Forces
As of 2006, Indian Air Force (IAF) has over 170,000 personnel and 3,382 aircrafts, of which 1,330 are combat aircrafts operating off 61 airbases – making it the fourth largest air force in the world. India’s strike fighters consist of Russian and French aircrafts like Mikoyan MiG-29, Dassault Mirage 2000, Sukhoi Su-30 – the last one developed under dual licensing by HAL, India’s aerospace industry in Bangalore. In addition to these, Indian Air Force also owns ground attack aircrafts, reconnaissance aircrafts, UAVs and support helicopters – a majority of them either of Soviet or French origin. Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has about 530 combat aircrafts and 65,000 active personnel, operating out of 9 airbases. Its strike fighters consist of US, Chinese and ageing French fighters like F-16 Fighting Falcon, JF-17 Thunder and Dassault Mirage ROSE-III. It also has transport aircrafts like Lockheed Martin C-130 and Airbus A310, however unlike India, there are no UAVs or reconnaissance aircrafts in the Pakistani Air Force.
Naval and Sea Based Forces
After the overwhelming losses in the 1971 war against India, Pakistan rapidly increased the size of its naval fleet which doubled in the 1980s after a massive 3.2 billion dollar military and economic aid by US President Ronald Reagan. At present, Pakistan’s navy owns over 45 vessels , most of them of US or European origin which include submarines, destroyers, frigates, patrol and mine warfare boats. It operates from its sole naval port in Karachi and sometimes from naval facilities in UK, USA and France. It had recently been involved in various humanitarian operations during the 2005 Tsunami in South East Asia. Indian Navy on the other hand, is a three dimensional naval force consisting of missile-capable warships, an aircraft carrier, mine sweepers and a host of marine aircrafts. Most of the warships in the Indian navy are indigenously built in its own dockyards. The navy operates from its major naval bases in Visakhapatnam, Mumbai, Goa and the Andaman Islands. Indian Navy has significant capabilities of being a true blue water Navy and is experienced both in war and peacekeeping operations in the Indian Ocean.
The Nuclear Club
India tested a nuclear bomb in 1974 using materials from Canada and technical help from Soviet Union. However, the embargo on heavy water export from Canada after the test stalled India’s nuclear ambitions till 1998, when it shocked the world by conducting five nuclear detonations termed as Shakti tests. The highest yield was by a 48 kiloton staged fusion device, which India claimed was a thermonuclear bomb but seismic data on the tests proved otherwise. In the same year 1998, Pakistan conducted a series of six nuclear detonations in a test termed as Chagai. The highest yield was reported to be about 25 kiloton from a two stage boosted device. At present Pakistan’s nuclear stockpile is slated to be around 30-40 warheads while India possesses 70-100 warheads. The nuclearisation of India and Pakistan became a turning point in the history of conflicts between these two countries with high tensions but no war, not very much unlike the US vs USSR Cold War.
Ballistic and Cruise Missile Proliferation
In the nuclear delivery front, both India and Pakistan have a series of ballistic and cruise missiles in addition to ground attack aircrafts. The maximum range among India’s operational ballistic missiles is 2000 km achieved by Agni-2. India’s Agni ballistic missiles are indigenously developed by its own missile defence industry known as IGMDP. The maximum range among Pakistan’s missiles is by Hatf V Gauri which is reported to do over 2200 kms. Pakistan’s Hatf missiles are based on North Korean No-Dong series of IRBMs. Both Pakistan’s Hatf and India’s Agni ballistic missiles are nuclear capable. India has also developed a supersonic cruise missile BrahMos which is by far the fastest cruise missile at Mach 2.6 and maximum range of 290 km. It is reported to be nuclear capable but it is not confirmed yet. On the Pakistan side, its Babur cruise missile has a reported range of 700 km and a maximum speed of 880 km/h (Mach 0.7). As with India BrahMos, Babur is also reported to be nuclear capable but there is no confirmation yet.
The Final Verdict
Both Pakistan and India are almost evenly matched head to head in nuclear and missile fronts, however India has strategic and technological superiority over the conventional forces of Pakistan. Indian Navy is larger in fleet and personnel size with a more varied range of ships including an aircraft carrier while Pakistan’s Navy is smaller and has no aircraft carriers. Indian’s IAF is equipped with highly capable fighters like 4.5th generation Su-30s and 4th gen Mirage 2000s which are technologically superior to Pakistan PAF’s F-16s and Mirage IIIs. Additionally Indian pilots are better trained and more capable in air combat than Pakistani forces as was demonstrated by its various wars with Pakistan or joint exercises with US and UK. In the area of conventional ground forces both the Indian as well as Pakistani Army is well equipped and highly trained to survive in extremities of topography and climate in combat conditions, like wars in the high Himalayas.
If a purely conventional war were to take place between both these countries, India would most likely overpower Pakistan owing to its superior military technology and infrastructure, larger manpower, more territorial area and a strategic advantage in its sea and air forces. It must also be noted that a war between these two countries will matter more than India’s conventional superiority as both these nations are nuclear powers on an equal deadlock.
yeh hai haqeeqat !!!
Seems like a typical “feel good” article from an Indian web site!
- Which indigenous Indian design? The dumbest ever weapons built like Argen Tank ( still not cleared as ‘fit’ by Indian Army after so called R&D of something like more than 25 years, lol, and Russian T-90s were bought as alternative ), Akash and Trishul (still rejected by armed forces, finally Israeli ‘spyder’ system was bought as alternative).
- No developing country can logically claim to have truly indigenous designs! The BrahMos was successful cuz its propulsion and other systems had full Russian design. The Akash is a copy of Russian SA-6, just put their both pictures infront of you! Hehe. MiGs and Su-27/30 are assembled under license. Similarly, Prithvi and Agni have lots of western and Russian input, read some independent site such as FAS to open your eyes!
- In contrast, Tank Al-Khalid was developed in around ten years time and is operational in our Army as a frontline capable tank with all modern technologies like ERA Armour, thermal imager for night fighting, ballistic computer, heavy 125 mm main gun etc etc. Our surface-to-surface missile program was based on “solid fuel” technology from the start, in contrast with Prithvi and Agni liquid fuels, which had like 12 times more reaction time than ours! Similarly Anza SAM has scored kills by Army Air defense in Kargil (MiG-21 and MiG-27, POW also taken in that) and also have been exported. So, what really are the so-called ‘indigenous’ Indian inventions? lol.
- This article also seems to be old! Since Pakistan has now a range of locally developed and imported UAVs, from NDC etc that also includes Italian UAVs like ‘Falco’ (also reported by Jane’s Defense Weekly).
- Indian navy always had the aircraft carrier even in the 1965 war … so when India dared to use it? Rather even didn’t dared to sail it outside harbor in any war! lol. Our Navy is small but effective with better number match in submarines, anti-ship weapons like Harpoon and air-launched Exocet, now also air-launched Babar cruise missile called Ra’ad.
- The temporary Indian superiority in terms of Su-27/30 is fast declining by our inducting AWACS (Saab-2000), F-16 C/Ds and upgrading F-16 A/Bs, AMRAAM C5, J-10, JF-17 armed with BVRs …. So it is a matter of short time before this also is even out!
It should be very new for you, As you people will not read anything outside you Flame bait things, Neutral sources are foriegn to you guys.
We need not be a leader in technology, We have our hard earned money(again a foriegn word for you beggers) to buy things what ever we want…. Even we have the ability to buy F-35 if US has it ready. And I am not sure what world class weapon does Pakistan Has, they begged everything from China and US. And AQ Khan stole the technology from the west and developed a Nuke with Chinese assistance…. You are no where near us and you are mocking at us. What an irony.
How can you tell that we have copied things?
Where is the proof? If you tell us that US had stolen and copied the F-22 design from Pakistan Scientists… Do you want me to agree?
Let me not go too detailed, If you had the world’s most advanced Tanks and missiles used in Kargil then you should have had Kargil annexed with POK, Simple rule…. What does your great tanks and most mordern weapons doing during the Kargil war… If I have most mordern and precision weapons then I should win the war.. That is the logic, Do you agree with me?
Everything is so fine yaar, Our Aircraft carrier is a dud, and you had most mordern Harpoon, Exocet, Babur and Ra’ad they why the mission of re-occupying J&K not succeeded… You can have anything but what is the net result?
Boss… India as of now Isreali imported Falcon AWACS… Your so called Saab-200 is nothing before Falcon Awacs, Read the neutral article on the capabilities of both and speak. By the way to whom you people have begged to get this stuff?
We can increase the defence budget by atleast 10% year on year… I hope begging is not a bright carrier.
ya … with a racist name like urs … u think u can think straight and right?
how about not killing people in the name of Nationalism? world peace? humanity? everybody is Gods creation (no matter whatever God u believe in)? or not.
How many ppl were killed in WWI/II in the name of Nationalism? 50 million alone in WWII.
Haha, F-35 … sweet dreams … better run ur hundreds of MiG-21s for 10 more years.
U know, almost every developing country at some point of time goes to international financial institutions like IMF, World bank and Asian Development bank. And no country in the world refuses grants …. who for that matter is ready to extend u grants? remember when ur country offered and granted USA port and airport facilities for Afghan war? other than that ur country is not in any strategic location to be offered any aid. No body offered “Congo” any aid ever, lol, and countries like that.
If u think that ur nuke program, or any technological project is indigenous and ours is copied … then u don’t know any history.
Was Russian nuke design original? Was Chinese nuke design original? When technology is available, there is no need to re-invent the wheel … rather its stupid!
If ur armed forces were any superior in Kargil …. why didn’t they conquered the so called “POK” that is still 1/3rd of Kashmir or they were afraid to come to our regular LOC? so the fact is that, u also can’t attack and win, not now, not in future … cuz we will fry ur a**es if u did!
ur MRCA fate will be as stupid as Argen, Akash, Trishul, Nag and funny projects of DRDO like that, lol.
Ok … tell ur ‘imported’ Falcon or ur fighter Jets to shoot down all the Saabs
Dude, While you guys are fighting about whose is bigger, the real beneficiaries are the goras who are laughing their way to the banks. Their policy of divide and rule worked 50 years back…too sad works even now.
Simple logic…. If I have money in my hand, I can do anything…Wy is US afraid of China… because of Chinese Military strength… nope it is because of the dollars which the chinese have in their banks… If they dump the dollars… It is a loose loose situation.
Nationalism… good argument… Why can you guys live in peace with undivided India? You belived that the Hindus will kill all the muslims… After 60 years we have many living proof that there is almost equal number of muslims living in India…. They live in poverty… I am not refusing that fact… but we have notyt killed them…..
We are not in a statergic location…. Get a nuclear deal signed with US or China like India did with US… Who is ready to offer you that much high recognition?
We are the defacto sixth nuclear power….
Let us stop here pal…. You are not going to accept that India is greater than Pakistan…. I am not going to acccept that Pakistan is greater than India….. Let the neutral sources decide that…
I Love My India
U paki just know hw to waste money on weapons, atleast spend some of that on poor people of your country . step outside and see what is the image of pakistan in the world . you all are gud for nothing. PAKISTAN A TERRORIST NATION.
HAIL PAKISTAN
INDIA is very weak country thats why it lost to pakistan in 1971
in 1971 india lost east pakistan 
pakistan is no 1 country <:-p off course in begging technology and equipments as well as money =))
- No India is very ‘powerful’ nation, lol, having the largest number of below poverty-line people in the world!
- It gave a lesson to China in 1962, not to ever fight again! lol
- And it has ‘conquered’ all of ‘its own’ Kashmir since 1948 war! what a shame that LOC hasn’t moved an inch since 1948 by the ‘gr8 Indian military’ might, lol.
- The Dalits are a gr8 example of a ’secular’ India, so is the BJP/RSS, and Bombay, Gujrat, post-Babri Mosque and what not ethnic cleanings.
- India also has a gr8 deal of law and order! where most of its states are practically run by Maoist gangs.
Aaaaa, Let India have largest number of people below Poverty line, that does not make Pakistan greater than India. People have to come up in life with their efforts, There are still millions live by eating foods given in Temples,Chruch and Mosques… No one can help help them…. Pakistan is not a land with multi millionaires.
If China is so powerful why the the hell they are still having border claims with India, They should have occupied everything in 1962 itself right? China have come to this place by very hard work(Not by begging like you guys do) They are very well aware of the fact that War with India is too costly for their Super Power dreams. So there will be no war within India and China.
If Chinese really want to go for war with India they have a proxy who does all things without Thinking.
India never wanted to conquer whole of Kashmir, What do you have in POK, People living with the aid money, The best India can gain is disconnect Pak-China Land Route to some extent, This does not worth the effort of war. If Pakistan military is so mighty then there should not be a country called Bangladesh now.
So what did you have done to Pakistani Christians? Remember you are no way better than us in the so called ‘ethnic cleanings’.
ok … spend 60 year more for “people to come up in life”.
Well … China is waiting, they are better thinkers than crazy South-Asians that have fought three/four times and still have logic for war.
If getting weapons is proxy … u r the greatest proxy of Russia and Israel!
We just have a joint enemy
Bangladesh is Separate case, if that is the logic … creation of Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan, Sri-Lanka, Burma etc was also failure of Indian Army, lol.
As far as Christians are concerned, yes things have happened here, but never ever a Nun was raped or a priest along with his child was burned alive by a mob! as in ur country … not one time but keeps on.
Well if US was more capable of stopping Taliban than us, they would have by now done so in Afghanistan, lol.
They way BJP/RSS doesnot represent all of Hindus or Hinduism …. similarly the actions of Taliban and Al-Qaida doesn’t represent Islam and all Muslims.
Aziz,
Let me give you some fine examples of Pakistani religious tolerance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Gojra_riots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Pakistan
Please check your facts before you comment.
We can speand another 120 years in getting up in life… Simply none of your concern…. You need not advice us on how to spend and where to spend….
Dont speak ill about the guardians of Islam.. They will kill you.
Note that Terrorist are not guargian of Islam,
They don’t have any religion.they are brain washed,they are being supported by the powers that don’t want to see this whole region prosper.
kia Hitler ko aap religios keh sakte ho ke usne jews ka qatal karwaya ,,,usne ye mazhab ke naam par nahin balke unko unki barhti hui powers ki waja se marwaya,uska apna nuqtae nazar tha,
isi tarhan dunya main bohot si examples milengi.
ye terrorist kia chahte hain inko khud bhi nhain pata ye to brain washed log hain.
i always wonder why no pakistani backs up his claim as better than india from neutral sources:))
hey to all pakistanis just show one neutral link that says pak better than india
) i will quit humiliating pakistanis 
)
Dear
you know y pakistanis are not accepting?because you people always have had superior attitude,remember brother one thing YOur Mahatma Gandhi once said,”bara wo hota hai jo apne kaam se bara ho na ke wo jo bolta rahe ke main bara hon”
to doston apne attitude main thora narmi laao,kia koi pakistani is baat se inkaar kar sakta hai ke india at least 5 to 6 times aage hai har cheez main pakistan se? nahin but only because of you people proudy criticism is arousing our people to do so.
Main ek baat ki gaurentee deta hon… ek baar pakistaniyoun se ache tareeqe se baat to karo,phir dekhna result.
What comparison of ” Tigers” and ” Chicks”
Yes Absolutely…..
dear pak brothers
we dont need military for killing indian. we need more like me to go india and kill they dont have guts to hang me. hahahaha
These Indian r not even worth chatting with . these peoples r chickens and pussies and can only talk do nothing kind of people .
By the way which Indian wants to chat with you?
Wake up! Wake up! Kashmir is still with India….. you can be a role model and grab Kashmir from Indians….. I like this flame baiting…
kashmir is a part of pakistan.at the time of independece
india occupied muslim states.it donot mean that these
states are part of india.one day they will pakistan
That one day will be the day during which no Indian will survive…. Try, All the best.
i think PAK is no more
Im telling all this PAKI’s mind ur language and ur business as well… and dont jut keep barking.. Always remember “barking dogs seldom bite’… U guys should use your lives to the betterment of humanity and the planet rather than create unnecessary chaos and destruction…. thats the difference between Indians and Pakis… We do what we should and you guys do what you shouldnt… As far as India is concerned we have shared tech in every field i must say but whats wrong if we have taken something we have also given something unlike you guys who can only take but give noting.. If our defence is borrowed tech then whats urs.. remember when u try to point a finger at someone 4 fingers point towars u..
@Sympathetic towards Paki.
You are absolutly right Barking dogs seldom bite. This perfectly fits on Indians as after Mumbai attack Indians barked and just barked and of blabbering couldn’t do anything so mind your languages and it is clear barking dogs/indians seldom bite
Ha ha ha…… India never told that it will go for a war with Pakistan after Mumbai Attacks…. May be one or two Indian politicians told it… but that is not the view of Indian Government.
Pakistan government knows how much Pressure they had got from International Community… An international isolation…. and how the Pakistanis get Vias to US or any other westwern countries?
Dear Pakistanis,
PLease please leave comparing india with pakistan,there is no match of pakistan with india in any feild.it is the greatest power we must understand. the only thing that we should conitnue is the peach mission with them,with sincerity as for the welfare and growth of whole sub continent,imagine we will have the indian market for our products for trade,we will have dry routs for asia pacific regions,we can take the advantage of indian technological advancements in agriculture,industry and education.
Dear Indians,
Now its the time for wake up,on broader spectrum I see myself,indians and bangalis as sub continentiens,You are going to compete with biggest economies of world like china,USA and your dream can not be fulfilled if you don’t make pakistan as your friend.YOu know by making pakistaqn your friend you will have easy access to middle east for trade,you can resolve your power generatoin issues by having gas pipeline from iran or uzbukistan etc.And also pakistan 18 hundred million people market will be available for you to trade.You can have lots of benefits from pakistan.
Remember that Pakistan is strategic necessity for the whole asia,either for trade,politics or others.thus pakistan can never be broken by any of world power,but all super powers want weak pakistan as to use its sea ports for political strategy(may be for controlling India as you are going to become a big power)you know,I know and everybody know that if Karachi or Mumbai will be free ports or run like Dubai than all the gulf states will collapse suddenly as due to their not easy geographical positions and lacking resrouces of agriculture,manpower and minerals.
Beleive me both the nations we are fighting because super powers,gulf states and others don’t want our union and mingling.
Now a question arises here,if USA and Canada can be friends than why not we?if Germany and UK can be friends than ahy not we?
Also one thing remember if all the fingers of hands are not equal than why you just see terrors than speculate that all muslims are like them?Also you can ask any of the hindu or christian who are living in Pakistan that how much facilities and respect they are having in pakistani society,they proud to be pakistani,thus it is also proved that Pakistan is not a fundamentalist country just some people are exposing this wrong image by their evil activity,note that in India there are some strick hindu organisations which are against muslins,christians and all non hindus,so should we speculate that all the india is like them?
Now decesion is up to you.
Hello Ali,
I agree with you….
1. We should make the international LOC as the International border and live with it… POK is Pakistan and IOK is India…. There should be no word called ‘occupied’ by both sides.
Pakistan should stop supporting terrorrist activities and kill all the talibans living in their country…. They are of no use… They will drag Pakistan into deserts and all people to have freedom to do what they like.
India and Pakistan should setup a common Commitee and see whether Pakistan receives its ratio share of water from Indus year on every year.
Yes the Americans will try to sell the F35’s to India and inorder to keep their market they may advice Germany and France to sell weapons to Pakistan.
The Chinese are opportunists… They are having having Pakistan as a proxy against China… If the Chinese are true friends of Pakistan they should have developed a good quality of Education like they have… They should have helped Pakistan and made them as a cheap manufacturing country and could have Industrialized Pakistan like the Industry base which they have…
I am sure Pakistan will not even have 10% Manufacturing industries of what the Chinese having as of now…. for the same piece of area.
They are the second largest exporters in this word…. Their balance of trade is very huge… If they had thought They could have ditched the dollars…. and toppled the US economy.
The position of India is 26, Smaller thatn that of Thailand, Norway, And City countries Hong Kong and Singapore and Position of Pakistan is 68.
Sending bombers and terrorist to India will not make India to make consessions.
Dear friend,
Thanks God that you sound politely,
Yaar ek baat kahon,yaqeen karna ke ye terrorism khud america ki production hain,america ne Russia ke against developed kia tha is ko
ab zahir si baat hai illitrate,non civilized and mountanian people the,jab war khatam ho gae to unko kuch na kuch chahiye tha isi liye isliye ISlam ko ghalat project karke normal muslims ki killing shuro kardi,like killing in Tajkistani,killing of many muslims in pakistan as well.
Masla ye hai ke pakistani government ko jab tak realization hui ke usne apni sha rag ke qareeb hi snake paal liya hai to us waqt bohot der ho chuki thi,but chalo at least ab unke khilaaf action to chal raha hai na?? yaar ye terrorist ka koi religion nahin hota,Islam to khud insaaniat ka dars deta hai.
khair, your suggestions are really good but from mysdide first we should have clear hearts from each other,than we can have something better.
I dream that one day we all be like USA and Canada..yaar dukh hota hai jab apne mulk main mehgaai barhti jaati hai but defence budget main koi kami nahin aati,load sheding barhti jaati hai but armed forces ke kharchon main kami nahin aati,dukh hota hai ke kitne log ghurbat se tang akar khud kushi karlete hain but hamari governments
sirf ek doosre ko neecha dikhane ke kaam karti rehti hain aur apni apni nakamian ek doosre par daal deti hain.
phir ham dono countries ke awam hain literally ham sab foolish hain bhai,pehle britain ne hamare oopar hukoomat ki,phir larwaya phir chala gya aur ham abhi tak usi ke nafrat waale beej ko lekar ek doosre se bezaar hain.
Iqbal ne kia khoob kaha tha”Na samjho ge to mit jaaoge ae Hindustan waalon,Tumhari daastan tak bhi na hogi daastaano main”
Dosto ye socho agar pakistan break hojata hai to kia ye world powers india ko grow karne dengi? abhi india ko sirf isliye support kar rahi hain ke China se khatra hai aur pakistan ko isliye ke ke terrorism khatam ho jaaee
kash ham jaag jaaen…kaash
Sorry I don’t follow Hindi or Urdu.
Sorry friend,
I basically was in emotions thus wrote in urdu,you know ehn a person is in emotion than only mother tongue is the best companion.
Dear summary of my whole text was that “May both the nations lave disputes and join together to form an economic block like European Union.IN that union both the countries(may be Bangal and other countries join) will have their isolated recognition and also the csome combined resources.
Imgaine Indian,Pakistani,Bangala Deshi people will have the same currency than user of that currency will be greater in number than the user of chinese or American currency,that will ultimately increase the price and monopolistic approach of europe will diminsh.
but would that be possible if we have no place in our hearts for each other???
i read all comments i will say one thing we will prefer die by fighting than to die thirsty.indian voilence of indus agreement will lead to nuclear war and that will be a time when hindu state will cease to exist in the world globe. if pakistan not then other muslim states will be but i am sure there will no india (a hindu state)in the world.keep in mind so live and allow living
The only Hindu Nation in the world is Nepal. India is not a Hindu State. We claim ourselves as a secular state.
See the pakistani News papers like Dawn etc….. See what your water experts and politicians say about the Indus water.
Your foriegn minister says, Pakistan wastes 1/3 of water which it receives. Water is a scarce resource, If you are not managing properly whether it our my problem?
Your water experts say India is not stealing Pakistani waters, It is Global warming that is the problem….. How can we solve this…. May be all Indian can go to Indus everyday and urinate in Indus river (I know it is not a parlimentary statement, but you are speaking without knowing facts.)
Have you even seen a Hindu in your life? If India is so eager to be a Hindu nation, We cannot have a muslim President(Who is the architect of Indian guided missile program) A Sikh prime minister. A Muslim Vice President.
Buddy we have more Nuke capability than yours… We have credible second strike capability, We have more Nuclear weapons than you, Our Anti missile capability is in development. If we want the existing anti missile capability, US and Russians are ready to sell that…(More than that we have the Money to BUY it.) The Americans will NOT allow you to use a nuke. Your Chinese friends may help you with conventional weapons but not with Nuke AT THE TIME OF WAR also they will never ever come to your aid at the time of war.
You don’t know the effects of nuclear war….. The Japs have took it and till today they are seeing the side effects, Children are born without limbs…. Remember neither Indian not Pakistanis can match the hard working capabilities of Japs, In addition to that the US helped them tremndreously after the war. There will be no one to help us.
India’s defence budget is 6 times more that of Pakistan and this gap will increase over years…. US will be sure that their military aid is not pointed against India, at lease not a significant % of their aid. US have very significant Investments in India, They will not let India down that easily.
We too have all whether friend Russia, They are credible, they came to our aid in 1971, Count how many friends does Chinese have…….
google may well provide you with a material comparision of two forces,but what about the passion that all pakistani nation and its forces have………? will google be able to give you any idea about that? surely not.
if you want to have a compaison,meet the remains(ex-indian soldiers)of wars who fought against our forces.they will tell you about this despite all the biasis that they have.
The Indian Cine stars in every state in every language have conducted show programmes with name called Kargil Aid fund and sent all the money to the Government.
The NRI’s have sent the money from middle east, West and almost all over the world, There is no country in the world without Indians.
Read this and get ashamed of the state of Pakistani’s in US, It is a news from Pakistani news channel.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/16-pakistanis+pose+as+indians+after+ny+bomb+scare-hs-01
During the Kargil I was in school, We collected money from all we know and Our school collected 3 Million rupees. I have a habit of working in summer…. The summer of 1999 I earned 300 rupees by working in a textile shop for 5 days….. Those 300 rupees I sent to the government, I received a letter of Thanks from Indian Prime Minister’s personal assistant… Which I preserve till now. Those 300 rupees is not a big amount… But that too have its share in Indian effort to recapture.
I know there were many companies whose employees gave their 100%, 70%, 50%, 10% 2% of their saleries during Kargil war… from 1999 till 2010, The numbers of working professionals increased tremedrously…. Couple of my friends joined Indian armed forces after seeing Kargil… They tell that all their batch mates are loved to join the Armed forces only because of Kargil.
The effort of India Media during Kargil is needless to say…. World knows that.
What were you doing during Kargil time?
Read the after math http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War
It was a news that Pakistan done to Indian soldiers body mutilated those soliders are tortured to death with maximum pain….. Does it show you are more capable than us? Absurd…. A soldier is a soldier, He fights for his country, When he is killed the enemy should show respect to his body according to Geneva convention.
So Buddy Indian are more patriotic, We are so much divided between Language, Religion, Caste etc. etc. But when it comes to National Security, We are one, You can brainwash some Kashmiri’s and some Indian muslims, send some Pakistani Muslim’s to make some bombings, but every thing have a limit….. Stop else you will feel the pain.
I dont know why some people are trying very hard to compare things when they are not meant to be compared at all.
The very basic logic behind Pakistan nukes, being a smaller country compared to India, It cant compete with India in conventional warfare. So the only deterrent for Pakistan is have defensive conventional setup backed up with strategic nuclear weapons defence systems.
so dont fight like kids, grow up. there is no comparison of Pakistan and India in terms of conventional arms and weapon systems.
Dream:i hope one day pakistan-india wil become togather again become hindustan (n forget,forgive every thing)
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englend ruled over 150yr and create part indo-pak.
currently situation remain same (bas englend ke bajay U.S hai)
(i guess pakistan people should come out)
Hardcorindian and Ali Pakistani:
Atlast there seems to be some sensible exchange of views ging on.
Just one thing to ponder : Who is getting all the benefits of the hatred that we have against each other?
In case of war betwen two countries does anyone thinks here that Indai will come out un-hurt?Or Pakistan will emerge as the most richest country?one nuclear detonation will kill over 2 million humans.Scientists are yet to control the atomic charge.So these speculations are not accurate.Destruction would be more.Not Hindus not muslims,but humans will die.Out of 40-50 nukes we have,we detonate say twenty.Then?And India detonates say 20?What about the destruction of asetts,land,water,nuclear dust that will spread till Italy in the West and till vietnam in the east.will there be Pakistan for the livng to say Pakistan Zindabad?Or India for the Indians to say Jai Hind?
War is destruction.Thats it.Why dont you notice that whenever there is a hope we have some kind of incidence?What happened when Vajpayee visited pakistan and recited the poem ‘come light the candles of hope’on minar-e-pakistan.he admitted (first ever such statement since 1947)that pakistan is a reality and we accept it.But what happened just 3 months later?Kargil.Then again Musharaf went to India , all was going good and both sides agreed to issue a joint statement about settling all disputes including Kashmir through series of dialogues.please see what jaswant singh had to say on it.And then all of a sudden the indian parliament is attacked.then happened the incidence of burning of train in which an on-duty colonel prohit was involved.so there are forces in india and of course pakistan whose agenda is that our generations should grow up in paranoia of each other.
I suggest we start a dialogue between us on this forum.this wont change the foreign policies of both countries but atleast some kind of exchange of views can take place.
Pakistan will never come down till they get Kashmir, India will never ever allow that, If India makes any small concessions according to the wishes of Kashmiri Muslims, Hindus and Buddists, What will Pakistan do next? What will all the Jihadist do the next moment? will they become saints? and there are some mullahs who say that they want to dominate the Hindus again.
Even in this Site I saw a article which shows a single Muslim nation with majority of India as a part of it. Pakistan is going to support LeT, LeT is telling their target include Hyderabad in Andhra Pradesh….
We are not ready for this game, So “Kashmir is an integral part of India like Tamil Nadu, Meghalaya, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh… Periods”
Again every Indian is against disintegration of the nation… We will never ever allow others to take a Hand of sand, If we allow that India will be the next USSR and We will never allow others to owerpower us, will will guard our borders, We have enough experience for many centuries, If we fail we will be another Tibet or a Palistane.
A nation of 3 Major Races
18 Major Languages, 1600+ other languages
The People of Noth, West, East and South have nothing common….. The only thing that Unites is the sense of Indian.