Lone Survivor From India’s Failed Moon Mission Chandrayaan-I

Saturday, September 5, 2009
By OmEr Jamil
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September 04, 2009

 

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Indian Astronaut Lands Back Safely.

 

Just kidding!

That’s the last survivor from last week’s failed Indian moon mission Chandrayaan I.

Ok. Kidding again!

Before anyone calls me a jealous Pakistani, let me say that it is an impressive feat for a developing nation and one that has the world’s largest concentration of poverty to launch space expeditions. It proves that the Anglo-Saxons don’t have a monopoly over talent and hard work. It is instructive that India’s last colonizers, the Brits, are yet to send any craft to space. Britain’s last meaningful contact with space was when many Brits thronged to movie houses to watch the space thriller Armageddon a decade ago.

So it takes courage, determination and vision to plan space missions. And the Indians did it last October when they placed their space craft in moon’s orbit.

As talented, hardworking people, their neighbors to the west, the Pakistanis, too are working on a space program. In fact, it is one of the best-kept secrets in a country that is not very good at keeping them. But unlike India, Pakistan has no delusions of grandeur and it is not preparing for future interstellar domination warfare. Pakistan’s concerns are modest: communications, business and research!

That’s in fact where the Indians started too before vanity took over along with the desire of a small group of hawks in New Delhi to become the next superpower. To be fair, most Indians are smart people and have better things to do than play superpower games. The idea of India playing this game was actually pumped into Indian mind by some hawkish Americans, Brits, Aussies and Israelis during the warrior reign of Bush-Cheney. That’s when some knuckleheads in Washington convinced some Indians that an India-Israel-America axis could actually change the world for good [with the Brits, Canadians and Aussies thrown in to give this whole thing an 'international' look].

The ‘recruitment’ of India was a joint Am-Brit idea, a combination of a desire to sell weapons, irritate China, and secure India as a future source of cheap soldiers to fight the Am-Brit dirty wars from the Red Sea to China to the shores of Sydney.

The failed moon mission, Chandrayaan I, is a good example of where India went wrong. The $82 million mission was assigned the task of mapping moon’s surface so that Indian scientists could prepare for sending a manned mission to the moon by 2013.

 

The craft lasted in space less than a year before Indian scientists lost all contact. Mission aborted and expensive equipment lost. To understand that vanity was a large undeclared part of this space mission, just see the reactions of Indian officials after the embarrassing news.

Most Indian officials initially said it’s not a big deal, the craft was supposed to map moon’s surface and that’s already been done. Another official said some 80,000 images have already been sent by the craft to earth. A third official said the ship would have been of no use beyond this point even if it continued to fly for the whole two years.

And then the entire Indian media went silent on the story. No discussion, no write-ups, and no questions. To me it seemed eerily similar to the free Indian media’s attitude on the Kashmir dispute: Uniformity across the Indian media and a strict adherence to the official Indian policy line, as if by government order, compared to the noisy and vibrant discussions in the Pakistani media often to the extent of ridiculing official Pakistani position on Kashmir.

It was obvious someone ordered the Indian media not to discuss the failed Indian moon mission ‘in national interest.’

The question that no one in India asked is this: Why map the moon surface? How would sending an Indian to the moon five years from now solve anything? And how about solving India’s mammoth developmental problems here, on earth, where most of the billion or so Indians continue to live???

The Indians, in their quest for projecting the superpower image that the Bush-Cheney people fed them before leaving for the dustbin of history refuse even to acknowledge they have a huge poverty problem that pales in comparison to the problems of any other nation on the planet.

Here is an example of Indian denial:

Last year, Kumar Malhotra of BBC wrote that in 2006 UNICEF has registered the death of 2.5 million children under five in two countries: India and China.

India’s share of these deaths was a staggering 2.1 million. And China has more population than India. This is the highest figure of child deaths anywhere in the world, and they happen because of lack of services and healthcare because India is busy becoming a superpower, beating China in military hardware and sending bungled space missions.

This year, the UNDP India poverty report for 2009 began with this sobering assessment: “India has a high incidence of poverty despite being hailed as an engine of growth and instrument of globalization.

Mr. Malhotra complains that ‘When you talk to officials and experts in India, they say poverty in is in decline.

India is ready to spend $82 million on vanity space missions and billions more on weapons [it recently purchased old refurbished Russian aircraft carriers], but won’t spend that money on the single largest concentration of poor people on earth, in Indian villages and cities.

The Indians hide these facts from the international audience. And the reality comes out in the open only when an adventurist British film director decides to portray Indian poverty in Slumdog Millionnaire. The film initially upset many Indians who thought someone created a hole in the Incredible India story.

Here is what India’s government needs to understand: You can’t buy your way to superpower status. What nation in history achieved this status by buying refurbished aircraft carriers when a majority of your people is stinkin’ poor?

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51 Responses to “Lone Survivor From India’s Failed Moon Mission Chandrayaan-I”

  1. saif

    asw bro.. im an indian muslim and proud to be 1.. dunno why u pakis are so critical of our moon mission. hav u guys ever come even close to reachin the moon usin even foreign craft? no.. we hav spent just Rs. 384 crore in which 100 crore was used to build a permanent space communication center not just for the moon mission but also for future programs. so v spent just about 280 odd crore to send the spacecraft.. and bfor makin all the fuss about it’s failure just look into the space programs of other countries.. Nasa has encountered a string of failures wherein the spacecraft couldnt even take off.. ditto with the soviet union. USA’s 1st attempt at the moon mission was a disaster. the craft exploded even bfor takeoff killin the crew.. now considerin the fact that Chandrayaan successfully took off nd also took high resolution images of the moon in the 1st attempt itself,& survived a year, along with launchin probes of the EU and US its a big achievement. nd for those who say that its a failure lemme tell you guys i hav personally seen live images being transmitted of the moon surface.. nd dont worry 95 % of its job was done..
    nd coming to poverty agree that we are poor. but from havin 3/4th of the population below poverty line few decades back we hav brought it down to below 1/4th. our govt is also committed to removin poverty thru the NREGS scheme whic has been given a huge allotment in the budget.. and bro our Per capita is much more than yours inspite of pakistan havin just a fraction of india’s population.. v hav educated more people than u hav managed to.(for al this c wiki stats.)..pakistan is rated worse than india in global corruption index. we are 1 of the fastest growing economies in the world. And u think ur country is a damn affluent one. Set ur own house in order bro bfor commenting on others.

    #3279
  2. indian

    india doesn’t want to prove anything to world.we are just securing our future resources ;may be on moon or mars.

    india ain’t a somalia or ithopia.we have a good base of human skilled and unskilled labor.there is nothing wrong in spending 384 crore on this mission.

    india has proved itself as a credible ,reliable satellite launcher.

    satellite launching business is almost close to 4billion $ a year.

    if we get about 10% of that in next 3-4 years.we would be earning about 2000 crore .

    technology is the need for south asia.there is no problem in failing .let it be in lca,arjun tank or any other missiles.

    indians are not as intelligent as pakistanis who send have 100% accuracy of launching missiles,planes and nuclear bombs;

    we cant free money to poor.poor has to yearn for it;earn it by his deeds.

    no country grows by doing charity.

    #3280
  3. saif

    and coming to ur claim that the indian media was silent about the failure of the mission,dont cook up stories bro.. it occupied the headlines for full 3 to 4 days in mainstream papers wherein our scientists have acknowledged the failure.. it stil occupies news columns currently. Ours is a free media. It publishes stories of anti insurgency in Kashmir but also gives the other side of the story(like police handling of protests).. it is a country where the media gives equal weightage to both hindu and muslim extremists.. unlike u guys who always have a biased view about indians…

    The pakistani space program is a “top secret” just coz they dont wanna acknowlegde that they dont hav the necessary tech yet.. our Spacecrafts are indigenous right to the Cryogenic engines whic v developed a coupled of years back.(bfor that our crafts used to run on russian engines)..
    and bro its not necessary that u should’nt concentrate on space and defense tech if u hav issues like poverty in your country.. let the govt do its job. let the scientists do their job.
    P.S
    sorry 4 my sms lingo. and happy ramzan… allah hafiz

    #3281
    • Saif, brother, like each and every of indian bloggers do at their blogs and discussion forums, we have a right to do the same! Here, we’re not unduly bashing or creating a negative propaganda but putting it with an aspect of discussion and that too with positively healthy criticism, which I believe should be respectfully digested. I’m happy to see that out of almost 4500-6000 daily visitors of my website, none raised a dirty finger, this was not the object either.

      I hope you’d understand :-)

      Happy Ramadan to you too, I hope and wish Allah blessed you with bundle of opportunities to earn most of it.

      Take care, Assalam-Alaikum

      #3286
      • J. Dupont Smith

        Mr. Jamil,
        You have a wicked sense of humor. Just my kind of guy. I’d invite you to Philadelphia for drinks but I surmise that might be problematic.
        I forwarded your hilariously captioned photo to the CFO of the largest tv cable company in the US and got an immediate LOL response. However, I think
        you pissed off India.
        Hey OmEr, let me ask you something. How come the Paks and the Indies fight like cats and dogs in your corner of the world, but when they immigrate to the US they act like brothers here?
        Keep the funny stuff coming..Its your gift to mankind.
        Regards, JDS

        #3942
      • Sayan

        Hey…u got the info?

        ISRO: Indian Space Research Organisation sent mission Chandrayaan1 found water on MOON.

        Path breaking discovery.

        Good luck

        #4011
  4. Proud Indian

    Lets spread brotherhood among India and Pakistan, we can start this by organizing our cultural activities across the border and mutual cooperation of future scientific and research programs.
    We can learn lot from US-Canada relation, we should start to diminish the distance between our soul. We will become most powerful region in the world.

    #3282
    • First of all, I cordially welcome your friendly wishes and offer and continue with my humble counteroffer to consider Haqeeqat.Org all yours with such a praiseworthy and noble objective :-)

      With all our hearts and minds, consider us ready! You tell your Government to stop interfering in Blochistan and FATA (Swat and also intrusion from Afghanistan) and stop blaming like we don’t do, we’d tell our Government to nab each & every element that put India’s privacy and sovereignty at stake!

      Brother, whether or not you and I believe that our Politicians, our Government, establishment, intelligence agencies and forces follow in never-letting-us-peace policy, it’d still remain a fact that they do it for their own benefits not the nation’s. NATION at both side does not want any eternal clashes & endless conflicts anymore. Put aside religion and region awhile and we’d learn that there’s nothing more than PEACE at and with both sides desire as much as we do in our motherland(s).

      It’s really high time for PEACE for the world out there is drowning deep in crisis of almost every sort. It is high time for us youth to take action towards making it a better place by sowing roses that spread the fragrance of love, unity, peace and eternal harmony among overall mankind, across all borders…

      #3287
      • Proud Indian

        Dear Jamil,
        We both living in democratic country (India and Pakistan), we are responsible first for our act. First we common people has to take the responsibility for making the relation between these two nation. Government is just nothing dude. The day when each Indian and Pakistani start believing each other show their respect for each other then this type of game play will not work. We want peace and progress. India and Pakistan have everything so that they can become envy of other nation, but we are lagging main thing that is peace. This is now high time for realization by each individual. How much money we are wasting to cover up our weakness in relation. Lets spread Brotherhood dude. At leat you and me can start right :)

        #3957
      • capton

        OmEr Jamil,

        First of all before putting any fact always give necessary proof or links otherwise nobody will believe. You’ve supposed that India is supporting Balochistan and FATA without knowing the truth. On what basis you are saying this? National news channels and papers are not always be neutral so refer international analysis.

        Ok now let’s come to the peace point. “First you tell your government to close all training camps inside your territory and stop craping about Kashmir!”

        When Indian PM visited to Lahore for peace Pakistani forces given Kargil conflict.

        When after some time India started to talk about peace process Pakistan gave terrorist attack on Indian Parliament.

        When we be calm and thought to continue peace process by forgiving you then again Pakistan awarded terrorist attack on Mumbai.

        What was that???

        First you stop abusing us. First you stop infiltrating terrorists. First you stop day dreaming about getting kashmir from India then We’ll talk to you.

        #5525
  5. indian

    there is no point pulling each other legs.

    we indians like positive criticism.

    pakistanis ain’t bad people.i have a pakistani punjabi girl friend:)

    so i am in contact with many desi boys from pak;
    all like bollywood movies and speak good hindi dialogues.
    so lets not fight over trivial issues.

    chandrayaan has achieved his most of the goals.

    i really feel ,india pakistan should work together selfishly.

    #3312
    • Gujaara

      Why? because you’re dumb f*cking enough to have a stupid Punjabi Pakistani girl-friend, who has no brains apart from her dull good looks.

      You might as well jab her vag*na and make love to a dumb f*ck*ing tree. F*cking moron!

      #4023
      • indian

        @gujaara
        Be Rationale
        Act like a HumanBeing.

        She loves india,indian culture and so do most of Pakistanis.

        They face identity crisis and portray themselves as indians to avoid any problem.

        #4464
  6. indian

    #selflessly :)

    #3313
  7. saif

    brothr jamil i’l tell ya 1 thing. u cannot shake hands with ur fist closed. india pursued CBMs with u guys until your ISI/military destroyed it al with 26/11. Its a fact that ur military is a hurt 1 after losin 4 conventional wars with us. knowing that it cannot win a conventional war ,ur establishment is pursuing the policy of “bleeding india with a 1000 cuts”. and u think v should remain mute spectators while brainwashed youth from your country wreak havoc here?
    u have brought upon balochistan nd FATA upon yourselves. u interfere here, we interfere there. its that simple. Now whose mistake is it?
    And i personally feel that partition was the worst thing that happened to both the countries. ur so called Quaid e azam created pakistan not for muslims but for those people who feared losin their share of power in hindu majority india. (jinnah was himself a wine drinker, dunno what kind of muslim was he.) im sorry for my harsh opinion about him but i feel hez the sole cause of all this conflict.

    #3314
    • Rameez

      Yes, Partition was the biggest mistake…I still believe in AKHANDh BHARATH…am I talking like a hindu extremist….? No, may be devout Muslim…who loves his country to the core.

      Jai Hind
      Allah Hafiz

      #4043
  8. saif

    AND TO FINALLY DISPEL ALL U GUYS’ DOUBTS, HERE IS SOME INFO FOR THOSE WHO THINK CHANDRAYAAN WAS A FAILURE
    PREVIOUS MOON MISSION FAILURES
    1)AUG 1958-PIONEER-0-launch failure just 77sec after liftoff
    2)SEPT-LUNA1958A-failure of impactor shortly after lift off
    3)OCT-PIONEER-1-failed to achieve lunar trajectory
    4)OCT-LUNA 1958B-launch failure
    5)NOV-PIONEER2-failed to achieve lunar trajectory
    6)DEC-LUNA 1958C-launch failure
    PIONEER3-launch failure
    7)APR 1962-RANGER 4-computer failure
    8)OCT-RANGER 5-failure of solar cells

    almost half missions failed even bfor takeoff!

    not to mention other non-moon mission failures like columbia and apollo disasters.
    all this by the then superpowers of the world. considering the fact that a developing country like india could achieve most of its objectives at the 1st attempt itself bfor failing, its a huge achievement. and another fact is that no company was willing to insure the mission coz of the high failure rate of such missions.
    inspite of such adverse circumstances, we came out with flying colors. so its high time that pakis acknowledge india’s moon mission instead of bragging over its late failure

    #3318
  9. Usman

    A’kum. I strongly support India on this accord. India spends over 60bil a year erradicating poverty in numerous schemes such as free/subsidesed medication, free lunch schemes, rations, debt waiver etc. Nothing to make fun in spending 100 mil to advance science and tech, considering India is quickly emerging. Saying that a country can only invest in Science and Technology after every of its population is rich is plain stupid and immature (think about Khemr Rouge). In that case we too should shut down our space program (if there is anything significant going on there apart from corruption) since poverty rate here is higher than in India. (FYI we stand at 24% BPR, up frm last yr, a record – even Bangladesh’s BPR goes down yearly)

    Kashmir is another issue altogether.

    #3336
  10. Mirza

    Usman, every country does that for her citizens by such schemes, that in fact are what taxes are for! So India doesn’t make a point here. Go through the UN’s HRI and you’d know where India falls and which areas should not be neglected anymore. This goes not only for India, be it Pakistan, Bangladesh or just any country, Human Life and the Quality of Life should always be preferred and prioritized over whatsoever technological advancements. That, I believe is how civilized nations should behave.

    #3341
    • saif

      science and tech can infact aid social engineering mr.mirza. chandrayaan is just a small part. v hav been sending remote sensing satellites time and again which are used to monitor met phenomena. time and again when floods rage our country, it’s our very own satellites which feed us crucial data,not american and russian sats. v hav also launched series of educational sats lik the Edusat whic air free educational programs by eminent professors of our country. be it defense,meteorology,telecommn v hav tried to cover all the areas. so to say that spending so much on science nd tech instead f social welfare is just nonsense. coming to the amount i again repeat that its a small 1. eg. 384 crore rs. is nothin compared to 42,000 crore rs. of loan waivers for farmers… think over. even pakistan could spend the billions of $ of US again coming almost every fortnight on welfare instead of on weapons

      #3343
      • Mirza

        We do, in fact we are among very few countries that pass huge, HUGE direct subsidies; yes billions of dollars to citizens even while being in the state of war imposed on us by all around. Pakistan, Alhamdolillah, possesses a nation that is considered to be the most charity-giving nation in the world! We’re still improving quality of health and life while raising the bar each time and marking the grounds by having faster and higher growth rate of Human Development and that too with comparatively quite limited and lesser resources than most of surrounding and neighboring countries! We are the small country between two huge of neighboring countries with lot lesser crime rate, suicide rate, child-abuse rate etc etc!

        Simultaneously, the advancement in science and technology have always been our specialty, both in the field of nuclear and conventional and advanced weapon systems as well as in agriculture, environmental and medical sciences, space biology, magnetohydrodynamics, telecom and multi-disciplinary sciences. I would love to mention that it’s our scientist who stands among one of the six scientists shortlisted out of 1376 from 900 universities in 60 countries by the International Scientific Council and also awarded the Man of Year title. To tell you, this is just one of the many world-renowned scientists!

        #3349
        • Gujaara

          Don’t be delusional Paki.

          No war was ever imposed on Pakistan. In fact it is not even a war that Pakistan is fighting. There’s a word for it ’scavenging’.

          You created the mess in your backyard. Now you gotta lick it clean.

          Don’t expect sympathy from anyone in this world. The whole wolrd knows that any terrorist state must clean the terrorists that it created sometime in the timeline.

          #4020
        • Gujaara

          What a joke!

          Advancement! What a delisional Paki.

          Stealing nuke technology from west and buying weapons from China is not advancing in the field of nuckear technology!

          Sending your poor patients to India for treatments because they can’t avail them at home, is not advancement in medical technology.

          Having not built one single rocket to launch satellites is not advancements in space biology.

          What delusions!

          #4021
        • HardcoreIndian

          Speak what ever you can… no one stops you… nobody listens too…

          #4175
  11. Dillip

    For info about the success of moon mission visit http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8230230.stm
    Get the actual story

    #3866
  12. Ashok

    That’s a typical Pakistani reaction. These people never try to explore anything else except meddling in other’s affairs. Why don’t you discuss your failures and the begging bowl you are carrying before U.S.A. for your survival.

    #4004
  13. Abster

    Sept 25,2009

    Dude

    Just google “Chandrayaan” again and it will show you what Chandrayaan has achieved has never been done in 50 years of space exploration and research by finding water on the moon ( a feat which NASA in all years of exploration has not been able to achieve and strangely enough no Pakistani newspaper is carrying that info …may be it’s that secrecy that you mentioned in your article )

    You guys gotta come out of your well else you frogs will think thats your world.

    #4007
  14. Gujaara

    FOR OmEr Jamil!

    I think the guy in the picture is OmEr Jamil, hiding his face in shame after realizing that Indian moon mission did one of the biggest discoveries in space research in 100 years of histiory – discovering water – after he blabbering about the failure of Indian moon mission!

    Or maybe that man is a representative of every jealous, failed Paki.

    #4022
  15. Rameez

    Assalamu alaikum,

    The article put by Mr.Jamil is more of INDIA BASHING rather than any constructive criticism. I follow the media in India on net and on TV and I think once they smell something fishy, they just play with that story. Being associated with ISRO(Indian Space Research Organization), I was pained by the negative propaganda in Indian Media. To tell media in India was biased would be utterly wrong.

    Secondly, If someone had a little knowledge in Space technology, they would have acknowledged India’s mission as a success even if it would have failed the first day into moon’s orbit. The technology and skill involved in a planetary mission is enormus and paintaking.

    Third, I am against any dialogue with Pakistan. I am a muslim and I belive the future of muslims in this country is in having and cementing the bonds with Hindus. If any Indian Muslim has any smpathy towards Pak…Do note that after 26/11, Pak govt was trying to stress that someone from India would have done it.Even those terrorists wanted the blame to be cast on Indian Muslim extremist… In case of a backlash by Hindus who do u think would suffer Pak?…No Muslims in India….and Pak will enjoy it on TV.!!

    #4041
    • HardcoreIndian

      Yes, That too in Indian TV Channel, Not their’s. India’s failure is Pakistan’s Success….

      You can’t help it… They are not worried about killing unarmed civilians(Includes Indian Muslims too) in the name of religion, All they want is that Indian Hindus should kill Indian Muslims and the Indian Muslims should retaliate. They are not living with the true Islamic principles.

      #4174
      • Rameez

        The Quran says…”If you kill any innocent person, even if it were by mistake, You have committed a sin equivalent to destroying humanity and u will be answerable…!!!” I see Pak going to hell in the afterlife….In this life there’s no better hell than their country.

        Allah help them.

        To all Bharathvasi,
        Frankly, I tell this from the deepest of my heart…There’s no better place than India. Lets secure it..We need not worry about Pak, they will kill each other and disintegrate into many small nations.

        We can then keep Punjab and sindh.!!!

        #4381
  16. Rameez

    Why is that no Pakistani Channel or newspaper is carrying info on Chandrayaan’s success in finding water….why is that ??

    INDIAN MEDIA HAS CRITICIZED ISRO A HUNDRED TIMES IN CASE OF FAILURE…

    PAK MEDIA IS BIASED…NOT READY TO ACKNOWLEDGE

    Allah help you guys…Put your house in order…then speak of others

    #4042
  17. gujaara

    Up until September 9th, Pakistanis were rambling over here. Now they seem to have gone hiding their heads in the Earth, just like the photo.

    Paki, you can never achieve anything in science and technology, except for stealing technology from China and west. You know why?

    Because, you are INFERIOR RACE!

    #4088
    • HardcoreIndian

      It is not apt to speak about the Race…. In late 1700’s and 1800’s the Germans were not that powerful race but they almost conquered the world in early 1900’s.

      Pakistani’s don’t is not at all comparable with India, they were born, fed with Hate India concept….

      Let them do what ever they want….. I have even seen people enjoying the terrorist killing unarmed civilians by seeing Indian media.

      If they are true Pakistani’s they should not watch Indian Movies and Indian TV Channels as we Indians are infidels….

      #4173
  18. Iqbal

    Pakistan is a goolam terrorist country having gadha brain. Pakistan has no original language, no original writing characters, no original religion, goolam of Arabs and Chini.

    #4155
  19. Kouser

    @Iqbal – you have similar name as Allama Iqbal, the greatest poet, philosopher and thinker, His philosophy is being taught in Harvard and other renowned institutions … He is the same person who dreamt of Pakistan and was one of the key founders of Pakistan… who are you???

    #4168
    • HardcoreIndian

      If you have a name ‘Akbar’, Then you cannot become Akbar… Ok?

      “His philosophy is being taught in Harvard and other renowned institutions” – Can you provide proof for this? Just for my knowledge.

      #4172
  20. Kouser

    @HardcoreIndian — brother you are going in useless discussions and lets not waste our time — for your curiosity:
    http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2004/12.16/31-mm.html

    http://www.allamaiqbal.com/publications/journals/review/apr03/10.htm

    http://www.chowk.com/ilogs/70261/32808

    http://www.storyofpakistan.com/contribute.asp?artid=C048

    http://www.amsscholarship.com/mem.htm

    this is one one — try reading Iqbal (His work is translated in English as well, in case you dont know Urdu)

    Sister Kouser

    #4182
    • HardcoreIndian

      :-( ( I asked for info…. how come it is a useless discussion? I am learning something yaar….

      #4272
    • M.Naveed Ullah

      It was written by Dr. ‘Allamah Muhammad Iqbal.

      Cheen-o-Arab hamara, Hindustan hamara

      Muslim main hum, watan hai sara jahan hamara

      Tauheed ki amanat senon main hai hamarey

      Asan nahin mitana naam-o-nishaan hamara

      Duniya kay bu’t kadon main, wo pehla ghar Khuda ka

      Hum uss kay pasban hain, wo pasban hamara

      Baatil say dabney waley, aey Asman! nahin hum

      Sou baar ker chuka hai Tu imtihan hamara

      Salar-e-Karwan hai Meer-e-Hijaaz (PBUH) apna

      Iss naam say hai baaqi, aaram-e-jahan hamara

      Iqbal ka tarana baang-e-dara hai goya

      Hota hai jada paima, phir karwan hamara

      #7372
  21. AngryPaki

    Dear OmEr Jamil,
    Your wicked sense of humor is amazing, you must have 2 horns protruding from your skull, resembling Satan. It is obvious that your article is hell bent on insulting India’s space program, shame on you. I don’t expect a primitive like you to understand space. Get out of that hell hole. Pakistan’s major contribution to this world is terrorism, producing largest number of terrorists and sending them to all parts of free world to create havoc; and it has achieved 100% success in creating havoc.

    By the way I love the picture of a yogi buried his head in the ground, legs straight up. I wish I could do that, an amazing feat. I know you put that picture to insult, but I look at it differently. Keep posting more pictures like that, may be you will learn some Yoga, rather than terrorism.

    #4252
    • HardcoreIndian

      I am sorry, Yoga is banned in Islam…. and till now these people have not told that you are an Indian?

      What ever may be Pakistan need not worry about the poverty in India…. Even if 50% are below poverty line, we have every right to increase the spending in Space and defence… none of Pakistan’s concern…. Buy the way we are not the class which eats GRASS

      #4271
  22. AngryPaki

    On a positive note: I forgot to mention, Chandrayaan-I found water on Moon, for the first time we have realized this. This is a great discovery for all of humanity. OmEr Jamil will not understand the benefits of this discovery.

    #4253
  23. deba prasad

    nice discussions..u guys doing..fantastic

    #4259
  24. indian

    @gujarra

    Hei,cool down friend.There is no point abusing any one.

    Problem is with Army,Leaders and corrupt Politicians of pakistan.

    Pakistanis are also normal people ,little frenzied in Religious web.

    Bollywood has already swept entire pakistan society.

    So most of them have some hate for hindus theoretically but they don’t really hate us.

    Pakistani community outside india is dependent on Indians.

    I personally know some of the best students from NED pakistan who are struggling in America.They don’t have good labs,are bad in Mathematics.

    They envy us,our Mathematical and Logical skills ;but are good guys/gals from heart.
    initially i too faced some issues with them,but i later found that they aren’t bad,but are little naive :)

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  25. saif

    i hav been commenting as a patriotic indian muslim on this topic right frm the beginning.. suddenly all paki guns hav fallen silent.. wots the matter pakis? india discovers water on moon and pakis find it hard to digest.. wont b surprised if this topic is deleted altogether

    #4650
    • HardCoreIndian

      Why are you adding fuel to the fire.

      They will not accept Indian success in any way, Please provide constuctive posts rather than posts which fuels flame bait.

      #4654
  26. aruni basu

    Hey Dude Nice Pic!!!!….and even better caption…Well actually I thought that it was the pic of a mujahideen demonstrating his suicide blast capibilities…anyways serious talk now…well India’s mission is not a failure…it has helped us understand our flaws…could you please tell which country’s maiden space voyage has been a success…at least we can now match shoulders with the western world…science and technology have orginated in INDIA…Aryabhatta an ancient indian astronomer had proved that earth goes round the sun in 300B.C…..that is 1000 years before galileo or copernicus was born…I have observed that Pak blogs are obssessed with critisizing INDIA….why I dont understand…Dude wake UP???Learn to move beyond Kashmir,1965 and 1971….The world is waiting 4 u…Instead of critising INDIA…Buikd your own technology…Jihad will do no good for you…as far as the last part is concerned….”Here is what India’s government needs to understand: You can’t buy your way to superpower status. What nation in history achieved this status by buying refurbished aircraft carriers when a majority of your people is stinkin’ poor?”
    I believe that Pakistan’s Economy is not in a better state either…At least india’s stinking poor don’t get bombed by US drones from Indian air space in return of F-16s….wats the use of that superpower which cannot gurantee our own people safety…We have given the world 6 noble lauretes…the co-owner of sun microsystems is an indian…today Bollywood is neck to neck with hollywood in entertainment industry…What has pakistan given to the world…jihadis???terror camps???…Even we have such elements in INDIA….I AGREE…BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE DONT SUPPORT THEM…BJP FACED THEIR WORST DEFEAT IN ELECTIONS AFTER GUJRAT RIOTS…THIS IS HOW DEMOCRACY ANSWERS AUTOCRACY???SORRY ABOUT SPEAKING OF DEMOCRACY…I THINK PAKISTAN IS MORE HABITUATED TO MILLITARY RULE THAN TO THE BALLOT…IT TAKES NOTHING TO CRITICIZE…BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF HARDWORK TO REACH UPTO THE MARK WHERE YOU CAN CRITICIZE OTHERS…AT LEAST FIRST BUILD A SLV ROCKET…(DONT BUY CHIENESE GOODS…WHICH YOU USUALLY DO…AS THEY DONT COME WITH A GURANTEE…)THEN YOU CAN THINK OF CRITICISING INDIA’S SPACE PROGRAM….THANK YOU…AND HAPPY VALENTINES DAY…

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