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	<title>Comments on: Analysis: Why Pakistan is Winning its War &amp; US/NATO Losing it in Afghanistan?</title>
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		<title>By: Asad Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asad Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so ur with those who impose THIER OWN ISLAM ?? o_O ?

well its a good sign tht the taliban are using computers to gain attention and not bombing processions or markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so ur with those who impose THIER OWN ISLAM ?? o_O ?</p>
<p>well its a good sign tht the taliban are using computers to gain attention and not bombing processions or markets.</p>
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		<title>By: kashif</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its all a deception
majority of ppl in swat hate pakistan army,as army destroyed a lot of mosques and killed many innocent people their...this is all army propoganda that swat people are with army
in coming days situation will clear inshalah that who is lying and who is speaking truth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its all a deception<br />
majority of ppl in swat hate pakistan army,as army destroyed a lot of mosques and killed many innocent people their&#8230;this is all army propoganda that swat people are with army<br />
in coming days situation will clear inshalah that who is lying and who is speaking truth</p>
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		<title>By: Kouser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kouser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you OmEr --- there is very thin line between worst democracy and dictatorship -- so lets not hope for either of these two -- People of Pakistan deserve the best and that is great democracy -- Shehbaz Sharif and Altaaf should remember to take care of the poorest in South Waz. when they are showering Pubjab and Karachi with kickbacks -- key note to remember is, when it is Altaaf &quot;Bhai&quot; government, he only works in Karachi and the rest is history. Actually there are certain &quot;Altaaf&quot; areas that get his blessing, the rest of karachi is as dirty as your imagination can get you there. same goes with PML --- they all want to work in one little area. Pakistan is not a large country, and should not be govern by different governors and zillions of provincial govt... we have more people in national/international/provincil governmental level than the actual popoluation... one effective way is to shrink down the government. As per Zaid Hamid, filter out the election process and eligibility criteria - REMOVE all people who had corruption cases against them, regardless of the fact the candidates claimed to win the cases. the constitution needs to go back to the early days of Pakistan and remove all dirty/greedy clauses that benefit anyone. This is a movement that will involve people from all levels and may take sometime but it will be worth it --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you OmEr &#8212; there is very thin line between worst democracy and dictatorship &#8212; so lets not hope for either of these two &#8212; People of Pakistan deserve the best and that is great democracy &#8212; Shehbaz Sharif and Altaaf should remember to take care of the poorest in South Waz. when they are showering Pubjab and Karachi with kickbacks &#8212; key note to remember is, when it is Altaaf &#8220;Bhai&#8221; government, he only works in Karachi and the rest is history. Actually there are certain &#8220;Altaaf&#8221; areas that get his blessing, the rest of karachi is as dirty as your imagination can get you there. same goes with PML &#8212; they all want to work in one little area. Pakistan is not a large country, and should not be govern by different governors and zillions of provincial govt&#8230; we have more people in national/international/provincil governmental level than the actual popoluation&#8230; one effective way is to shrink down the government. As per Zaid Hamid, filter out the election process and eligibility criteria &#8211; REMOVE all people who had corruption cases against them, regardless of the fact the candidates claimed to win the cases. the constitution needs to go back to the early days of Pakistan and remove all dirty/greedy clauses that benefit anyone. This is a movement that will involve people from all levels and may take sometime but it will be worth it &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: OmEr Jamil</title>
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		<dc:creator>OmEr Jamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice suggestion Kouser, I&#039;d like to add Londonstani&#039;s post on &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.cnas.org/blogs/abumuqawama/2009/11/counterinsurgency-lessons-pakistan.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNAS&lt;/a&gt; as a critique to David&#039;s post:

&lt;strong&gt;Counterinsurgency - Lessons from Pakistan&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;em&gt;November 17, 2009 &#124; Posted by Londonstani&lt;/em&gt;

There&#039;s little news coming out from independent sources about the Pakistani army&#039;s campaign in Waziristan. The suspicion amongst the international journalists and analysts is that the Pakistani army doesn&#039;t have the capacity to take out militants without causing serious collateral damage to civilians, and so the result of the present action will be further militancy in the future.

However, some journalists who have seen the government&#039;s efforts during the Waziristan campaign and before that in Swat have come away with a sense that the government has realised that succeeding against militancy is about resettlement and reconstruction as much as it is about blowing stuff up.

David Rose of The Mail, a British daily, spent a good long time in Peshawar, Swat and Dera Ismail Khan. Amid calls from U.S. and British officials for &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-11-16-voa15.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pakistan to do more&lt;/a&gt;, David says that what Pakistan is doing, it is doing well, and ISAF forces on the other side of the Durand Line could learn a thing or two from the Pakistani approach.

David illustrates what the Pakistani state successes by pointing out how it dealt with refugees from the Swat campaign.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;When I last visited Pakistan in June, at the height of the Swat campaign, there were more than two million internally displaced persons (IDPs) living on the scorching plains in camps and relatives’ spare rooms.

But a remarkably efficient army-led transport and reconstruction effort has meant more than 95 per cent of them have been back home for weeks.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

David&#039;s reporting suggests that the Taliban&#039;s ability to alienate practically everyone once in power is proving an asset to the Pakistani state.

&quot;&lt;em&gt;‘The people supported the Taliban because they felt the state was not giving them justice. But now they are finished,&lt;/em&gt;&quot; says one man from Mingora.

Extrapolating, Londonstani wonders if what David saw in Mingora is applicable to Pakistan as a whole? If we look past all the &quot;slave of the West&quot; talk, does the Taliban gain support when the state seems to have failed to provide the basics? And if the Taliban does manage to rule an area, does the state have a window of opportunity to prove to the population that they are better off without Taliban rule? But, doesn&#039;t that mean we could avoid all of this if the government could do a good job actually doing its job (like, you know, governing) in the first place.

Doesn&#039;t that make the solution seem tantalisingly close at hand? Help Pakistan govern properly.

Unfortunately, this is harder than it seems. In fact, it&#039;s so hard the government seems to be concentrating on letting people down gently instead of building up their hopes. A popular political banner at the moment proclaims, &quot;&lt;em&gt;The worst democracy is better than the best dictatorship.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; Londonstani is not so sure everyone agrees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice suggestion Kouser, I&#8217;d like to add Londonstani&#8217;s post on <a target="_blank" href="http://www.cnas.org/blogs/abumuqawama/2009/11/counterinsurgency-lessons-pakistan.html" rel="nofollow">CNAS</a> as a critique to David&#8217;s post:</p>
<p><strong>Counterinsurgency &#8211; Lessons from Pakistan</strong><br />
<em>November 17, 2009 | Posted by Londonstani</em></p>
<p>There&#8217;s little news coming out from independent sources about the Pakistani army&#8217;s campaign in Waziristan. The suspicion amongst the international journalists and analysts is that the Pakistani army doesn&#8217;t have the capacity to take out militants without causing serious collateral damage to civilians, and so the result of the present action will be further militancy in the future.</p>
<p>However, some journalists who have seen the government&#8217;s efforts during the Waziristan campaign and before that in Swat have come away with a sense that the government has realised that succeeding against militancy is about resettlement and reconstruction as much as it is about blowing stuff up.</p>
<p>David Rose of The Mail, a British daily, spent a good long time in Peshawar, Swat and Dera Ismail Khan. Amid calls from U.S. and British officials for <a target="_blank" href="http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-11-16-voa15.cfm" rel="nofollow">Pakistan to do more</a>, David says that what Pakistan is doing, it is doing well, and ISAF forces on the other side of the Durand Line could learn a thing or two from the Pakistani approach.</p>
<p>David illustrates what the Pakistani state successes by pointing out how it dealt with refugees from the Swat campaign.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;When I last visited Pakistan in June, at the height of the Swat campaign, there were more than two million internally displaced persons (IDPs) living on the scorching plains in camps and relatives’ spare rooms.</p>
<p>But a remarkably efficient army-led transport and reconstruction effort has meant more than 95 per cent of them have been back home for weeks.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>David&#8217;s reporting suggests that the Taliban&#8217;s ability to alienate practically everyone once in power is proving an asset to the Pakistani state.</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>‘The people supported the Taliban because they felt the state was not giving them justice. But now they are finished,</em>&#8221; says one man from Mingora.</p>
<p>Extrapolating, Londonstani wonders if what David saw in Mingora is applicable to Pakistan as a whole? If we look past all the &#8220;slave of the West&#8221; talk, does the Taliban gain support when the state seems to have failed to provide the basics? And if the Taliban does manage to rule an area, does the state have a window of opportunity to prove to the population that they are better off without Taliban rule? But, doesn&#8217;t that mean we could avoid all of this if the government could do a good job actually doing its job (like, you know, governing) in the first place.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that make the solution seem tantalisingly close at hand? Help Pakistan govern properly.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this is harder than it seems. In fact, it&#8217;s so hard the government seems to be concentrating on letting people down gently instead of building up their hopes. A popular political banner at the moment proclaims, &#8220;<em>The worst democracy is better than the best dictatorship.</em>&#8221; Londonstani is not so sure everyone agrees.</p>
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		<title>By: Kouser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kouser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt army has done great achievements, BUT we must follow it up with developments and good governance. There should be sincere leaders who will take care of people and law and order, no corruption... The natives must know how to protect themselves. The training and development must start ASAP, like yesterday. This government better not fail the people now, otherwise all these sacrifices will be in vain. meanwhile, we must stop taking orders from US, and remove blackwater and all US contractors from Pak Zameen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt army has done great achievements, BUT we must follow it up with developments and good governance. There should be sincere leaders who will take care of people and law and order, no corruption&#8230; The natives must know how to protect themselves. The training and development must start ASAP, like yesterday. This government better not fail the people now, otherwise all these sacrifices will be in vain. meanwhile, we must stop taking orders from US, and remove blackwater and all US contractors from Pak Zameen.</p>
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